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The problem with physics

from Peter Radford

What? You say. Why are we concerned with this?

Aaaah. There’s a story to be told. Ultimately it has to do with uncertainty, which as you know is near and dear to me.

You see physics has a big problem.  It is way too successful. In fact it is so successful it has two well worked out and immensely documented, tested and tried theories – or sets of theories. One set covers the big stuff like you and me and the stars. The other covers the small stuff like all those exotic particles none of us can see but which apparently batter us by the trillion every moment of every day. The big problem is that the two sets of theories don’t fit well together. In fact in some respects that contradict each other. Much like two sides of a warring family, they peer at each other and try to make life very difficult for anyone who dares create harmony.

Physicists know this of course and are trying to bridge the gap. The discipline is at a fever pitch of debate, argument, and division as to how to accomplish the great unification. Some people even doubt it can be done. I have not heard of fisticuffs, but tempers are frayed. The stakes are high and reputations are at stake.

Superficially this sounds like the state of economics. An outsider might believe the turmoil within the two subjects is symptomatic of a unified search for knowledge.

Not so.

Not so at all.

That view holds for physics. Over there the debate is raucous, but at least everyone agrees what the problem is. Better yet, they agree that there is a problem to be argued over. Back here in economics there are droves of good folks who don’t think a problem exists.

Once upon a time, back in those days of Newtonian certainty, physicists strode the earth sure they had cracked the code of the universe. Sound familiar? Given the right data, they told us, they could predict everything. The universe could be wound up and wound down. It went forward and it went backward. It was a great big predictable machine made up of bits and pieces that obeyed so-called laws that held everywhere. It all workde so well for a while.

Whoops.

Not so much.

This elegant and perfect picture started to fall apart as soon as irritating people mucked about with thermodynamics, relativity, and – gasp – quantum mechanics. Poor old Newton was reduced to having given us a pretty good approximation, rather than the exact explanation of the world around us.

We now know, although we don’t really experience it, that the world is decidedly odd. That things can be in two places at the same time. That your time and my time are not the same. And that time, the greatest mystery of all, runs in only one direction. We can never revisit the past. The universe, it turns out, is a weird roiling miasma of information for ever changing and riven through with inherent and fundamental uncertainty. Non-ergodic sounds very dangerous, but it turns out to be deeply true.

Personally I blame entropy for this nightmare.

When Boltzmann wrote out his equation defining entropy he was greeted with howls of horror and disgust, it threw overboard the elegance of what was then so sure. It substituted vague notions of probability for great certainties of exactitude. Boltzmann committed suicide partly due to the opprobrium heaped upon him. His grave has his equation inscribed upon it.

In the vernacular, entropy destroys everything. It is the process whereby structure becomes unstructured. It is the reason life is short rather than permanent. A thermodynamic universe turns out to be much like Hobbes vision of life: nasty, brutish, and short.

The problem with physics is that this turns out to be accurate. Yet we experience enormous stability. Big things don’t seem to fall apart all or jump about, or do any of that strange stuff that small things apparently do. There is structure. And it endures. You and I are comprised of particles whose exact location and trajectory is problematic. Yet we manage somehow.

That’s a problem physics will have to deal with.

We have our own issues.

We are much like the Newtonians. Our conception of an economy appears to work pretty well. At our local level the earth appears flat. Indeed for practical purposes, as I walk around the streets of Manhattan, it is flat. I would be a fool to try to compensate for the curvature of the earth on such a small scale. So I keep things simple: I assume the earth is flat. At least this bit of it.

But that isn’t the truth. It is a poor and misleading approximation.

So too with economics.

Great approximations that appear to provide good working models of the economy, but which are based upon the equivalent of the flat earth perspective, produce profoundly erroneous insights into what goes on. Sure they look good. Sure they are easily modeled. But they are an illusion based upon a false understanding of the deeper truth.

Let me go further.

One of my favorite thinkers is Karl Popper – I named a cat after him. In particular I like his simple phrase: “all life is problem solving”. Popper worked extensively on evolutionary epistemology and convinced has me that life is a solution to a problem. That problem being the overwhelming presence of uncertainty in our environment. Once something is counted as being alive we know it is struggling with its context. It has to fit with its environment or it will not survive. And in that environment lurk all sorts of dangers, not least the scarcity of food, but also enemies competing with it, and occasional disasters that could invalidate all its accumulated experience.

Entropy undoes all that is done. It un-structures all that is given structure. It causes all the information we acquire about the world to be lost. It produces change. And that change is the most destructive element life has to combat. It is a big problem. The biggest, in fact.

Hence Popper’s observation that all life is problem solving.

Now reverse his thought. He also means that wherever we detect a problem being solved we have detected life. And since entropy assures life that its context will forever change, and that it can never return to a state once travelled through, life has to keep learning.

So life is a constant search. A search for information sufficient to expand the area of the known into the area of the unknown. Sufficient, in other words, to put a boundary around life within which it can eliminate uncertainty at least for a while. That victory is never permanent. But it buys life an opportunity to replicate and pass forward its struggle. So life learns. It expands its equipment. It acquires more resources to make that boundary between the known and the unknown more secure and more distant. Life acquires vision, ambulation, smell, touch, chemical defenses, structural coherence, and all sorts of manifestations of having learned along the way how to deal with uncertainty. Of how to make its environment a little more secure for a little longer.

Notice that this struggle is not for a perfect defense, but for a sufficient defense. Life can never experience perfection since that is a meaningless concept in the face of entropy’s pull towards destruction. Life can only ever be sufficient. To use Simon’s concept: it “satisfices”.

The problem with physics and consequently with chemistry and biology, is that it has moved into this thermodynamic world of probability, oddity, uncertainty and change. The days of great images of a clockwork universe unwinding according to immutable laws has been replaced by a less certain world where prediction is just as accurate, but is now based upon a deeper understanding and the expansion or replacement of those laws.

And the problem with economics is that it ignores, deliberately, most all of that view.

The notion of understanding the properties of equilibrium is meaningless when there is no equilibrium. Yet the state of the art is trying to do just that. The notion of optimum efficiency or any other aspect of perfection is senseless in the face of inherent uncertainty. Until we embrace uncertainty and stop trying to eliminate its effects from our thinking we will not engage the real world. Economists will be “flat earthers” happy that we are correct on our small scale, but horrendously wrong on a large scale.

Physics can be abstract. It seeks to simplify in order to understand the real world. Economics can be abstract. It seeks to simplify in order to avoid the real world.

Approximation is a deception when we accept it for more than it is. As in when we prescribe policy solutions based upon doctrines and ideas that are equivalent to assuming the earth is flat.

An economy is a struggle between human creativity along with our search for structured consumable stuff within an uncertain and constrained environment, and the entropy that dissipates, devalues, and destroys all that structure. Production and search are creative. Demand and consumption are entropic. The tension between the two creates the flow and all the processes we observe in an economy. As we locate resources we add information to our world. As we structure goods from raw materials we add information to those inputs. As we advertise we add even more information. As we distribute we add more again. All these activities are centered around the addition of information and the generalization of what was previously highly specific. Generalization being the creation of order within disorder. Consumption is then the loss of that order and the deconstruction of the generalized product into the specific components that each of us uses to survive or satisfy our own requirements. You use your car to drive there. I use mine to drive here. We thus take the same generalized product – a car – and specify it to our own uses. Beyond deconstruction is the final dissipation of the structure back into its original disordered state and into pollution, depreciation, and other ways we lose order finally.

Creativity in tension with entropy. A vast cycle of information flowing from disorder through order and back to disorder. All very thermodynamic. Boltzmann would approve. All in the face of uncertainty. All a giant problem solution as life, in this case humankind, struggles to arrive at sufficiency in the face of that uncertainty. Popper would also approve.

Abstract? Yes. But rooted firmly in the real world. And related to the artifacts, institutions, and processes that litter our economic landscape. A utopia? Not at all.

You see, that’s the problem with physics. It moved on and learned. Economics didn’t. Heck, a lot of economists don’t even acknowledge the problem. They like to model dynamics in a world dominated by thermodynamics.

And therein lies the tale.

  1. paul davidson
    March 6, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    AS i HAVE BEEN ARGUING SINCE 1984, PHYSICS REQUIRES THE ERGODIC AXIOM– SO THAT SAMPLES DRAWN FROM THE PAST PROVIDE PROBABILITY DISTRIBUTIOBS WHICH, ACCORDING TO THE ERGOD AXIOM ARE EQUIVALENT TO SAMPLES DRAW FROM THE FUTURE UNIVERSE.

    i DOCUMENT THAT SAMUELSON WROTE THAT IF ECONOMICSIS TO BE A HARDD SCIENCE LIKE PHYSICS WE MUST ADOPT THE “ERGODIC AXIOM”. bUT THAS PRESUMES THE FUTURE IS ALREADY PRED3TERMINED AND CAN BE KNOWN BY LOOKING AND ANALYZING CURRENT AND PAST MARKET Data oNLY THE NEED TO CALCULATE PRO9BABILITY DISTRIBUTIONS FROM EXISTING DATAATA. THRE IS NO UNCERTAINTY==only the need to calcuate probabiloity distributions

    I THEN POINT OUT THAT KEYNES REJECTED THE ERGODIC AXIOM IN HIS aRGUMENT aGa

    INST MR. TINBERGEN’S METHOD ARTICLE. THUS UBNCERTAINTY IN ECONOMICS. YOU CAN READ THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT WITH CITATIONS TO WRITTEN DOCUMENTS IN MY BOOK THE
    KEYNES SOLUTION

    paul davidson

  2. John McDonald
    March 6, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    The Entropy Law And The Economic Process by Nicholas Georgescu-Rogen is a rich source for understanding the extent to which standard economic theory abstracts from the real/physical world. I do not recommend reading it cover to cover unless one has some training/interest in the physical sciences (engineering for me). Selective reading, however, can open one’s eyes to the obvious limits of neoclassical economic theory’s ability to say anything useful about an economy embedded in a real world of physical resources and entropic processes.

    • March 7, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      I have no particular training in the physical sciences and I still enjoyed reading the book in full. And I strongly recommend it! If I remember (I read the book several years ago) the most important criticism by Georgescu-Roegen was that conventional economists think in terms of “accounting of economic flows” whereas they should think in terms of “accounting of natural assets”. I can’t remember (here and now) the exact terms he used.

  3. KS
    March 6, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    I don’t mean to take your analogy with physics too literally, but since both fields do heavily utilize math I feel in this area there are some points to be made for where it breaks down. Complex systems are intractable in general. Physicists had the luxury of studying new fields like quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and relativity using foundations that are novel but still tractable, and mathematically ‘nice’ in a way. It appears that it wasn’t too long ago when physicists who wanted to study nonlinear systems with high degrees of freedom weren’t mainstream either and had trouble with funding, and I don’t know if this is still the case. Progress in that area relies on innovations in our mathematical toolboxes and computational capabilities that are not specific to physics.

    Another problem that certainly holds economics back from a ‘complex systems’ approach would be data collection… in most areas of physics the set of physical laws you would need to derive any data from is complete and are well studied.

    This being said, as a non-economist with training in chemistry I still feel that many economists should stick with the tools they are using until the ‘complex systems’ approach is more tractable for economic systems, because the other alternatives are so not clear to me. I would be against going back to the ‘persuasive discourse’ they were previously using as mentioned in “Discussion of the week: Patch, Knibbe and Radford on history vs. science and Krugman’s claim of originality”. Given the political climate today things could just get worse than they already are. Perhaps in the meantime the change should come most from non-economists who currently listen to economists (the bad ones, not the ones behind this blog :), rather than the economists themselves.

  4. s h a r o n
    March 7, 2011 at 1:41 am

    It’s even simpler:

    There’s too many of us on the planet.
    [sorry, no references]

  5. Jorge Buzaglo
    March 7, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Or, as Newton said, “Physics, beware of metaphysics.”

  6. March 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    The big epistemological danger (when comparing Physics with “Economics”…) is that, whereas in Physics there are two complementary (even though not entirely compatible) paradigms, which are accepted and openly acknowledged by both “parties”, in “Economics” there is ONLY one “official” and/or “politically correct” and/or “academically accepted” paradigm: that one called “the great synthesis”. It is rare to come across an “official” recognition that it is also a motley of ideas, where Austrian Praxeology lives side by side with Keynesian and/or Monetarist prescriptions for Economic Policy… And that there are other alternative paradigms that propose to explain economic phenomena in a more efficient manner or more attuned to reality.
    As a result, those physicists that attempt to jump the bandwagon of “EconoPhysics” run the risk of trying to rescue the wrong animal by approaching it from the wrong side of things. The real issue is not the use of “mathematics” (as some economists would imagine it to be in Physics); the real issue is how to approach the concept of “price” and “value”. The “measurement” issue, the metrics of if all…
    The Marxist idea of an objective based “labor theory of value” (from which the agents in the markets arrive at prices…), as opposed to the subjective based “marginalist theory of price” (which simply ignores the idea of “value”…), was discarded over a century ago, after Bohem-Bawerk dictated that it was wrong.
    So, physicists (that attempt to jump the bandwagon of “EconoPhysics”…) might be well advised to consider leaving “quantum physics” at the docking station, because, as one of my professors said in a doctoral program in Complexity Sciences, “time is reversible”(I would have said “time is irrelevant”, but I am no physicist…).
    The time scales are hugely (abysmally…) distinct, but the “big bang theory of and expanding Universe” seems to me to be a much better metaphor: as indicated by the “Second Law”, time flows only in one direction. And yet World Bank and IMF economists keep on preaching to underdeveloped countries that they stand a chance of enacting their own “Industrial Revolution”…

  7. March 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Explaining work and money will introduces language, diagrams and working models to boggle the mind and depress the spirit. So we search for the simplest view that will tell us what to do to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and house the children away from harm.

    It turns out this is to create money by law and the things it will buy by work, automation and logistics.

    If we can do that, functional finance will help trained people match supply to need, money to supply, and inflation protected savings to money for all.

    There will be money enough to go around. And there will be no taxes at all or unpayable debt — after it automatically is swapped for equity.

    This is all done all over — but in some places better than others. So the only solution is to visit Finland and the Channel Islands off France under the protection of the Queen of England. Simplify whatever they’re doing and see if translates into basic English.

    If the system suggested by this exercise can throw light on law and economics as taught in schools of accounting, create a new art of practical remedies to end unemployment overnight night and poverty as soon as possible.

    When machines do all the work and people live only for hobbies, bring back the study of economic history and bring it up to date.

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