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The double dipsters are wrong and it makes a difference

from Dean Baker

The latest fad among economic forecasters is to talk about the growing probability of a double-dip recession. They have raised fears that the economy will again go spiraling downward at a point where it has hardly made up any of the ground lost in the last recession. This is indeed a scary prospect. However the data suggest that the double dip gang is off the mark in raising these fears.

Before reviewing the evidence it is important to remember who these economic forecasters are. Economic forecasters are not workers like dishwashers and cab drivers who are held accountable for the quality of their work. They can be wrong every day about everything and face little risk to their career prospects.

Go back to 2006 or 2007 and see what your most widely quoted forecasters had to say about the economy. Almost none of them noticed the $8 trillion housing bubble that was on the verge of collapsing and wrecking the economy. With very few exceptions, the word from the forecasters was that we had clear skies ahead.

If you thought that missing the biggest downturn in 80 years would be a strike against your record, then you don’t understand economic forecasting. There is no reason to believe that forecasters are any more knowledgeable about the economy today than they were four or five years ago.

A recession means that the economy is actually shrinking. Generally the economy has gone into recession when the Fed raised interest rates to slow the economy in order to bring down inflation. The normal story is that higher interest rates lead to reduced purchases of interest sensitive items, most importantly cars and houses. Most post-war recessions were kicked off when car sales and house sales and new construction plummeted.

There seems to be little risk of a substantial decline in either car sales or house sales and construction, primarily because the levels are already so low. Car sales are currently running at a bit below a 13 million annual rate. By comparison, they averaged well over 16 million annually in the years before the recession.

It’s difficult to envision the sort of big dip in sales that can tip off a recession. Car sales are not likely to fall below a 10 million annual pace.

It is the same story with housing. In the years leading up to the crash, the country was building close to 1.9 million housing units a year. In recent months we have been building homes at less than a 600,000 annual rate. How much lower would anyone think this number could go?

In short, we simply don’t have the basis for the typical recession in the post-World War II era. Both car sales and housing construction are already so low that they don’t have much room to fall.

Looking at the other categories of GDP, it is difficult to see the basis for the negative growth implied by a recession. Consumption of course is the biggest part of the story, comprising 70 percent of GDP. We have seen slow growth in consumption through the first half of 2011 and it is difficult to see why that would not continue. The economy added 117,000 jobs in July. This is weak, but nonetheless positive.

Wages are roughly keeping pace with inflation. They fell behind a bit in the first half of 2011 because of the surge in energy prices; however, with energy prices falling in the last two months, workers will see some boost to their real wage in the second half of 2011.

Equipment and software investment has been growing at a rate of between 5-10 percent. Since orders are typically made well in advance of actual investment, there is no evidence in the order data that suggests this number will turn negative. The government sector is shrinking, but only at a 1.0-2.0 percent annual rate for a sector that comprises 20 percent of GDP.

In short, looking at the issue more closely, it is hard to construct the double-dip story. The one exception would be if a collapse of the euro led to a Lehman-type financial freeze-up. However, this would require a degree of blundering that would be difficult to envision even from the European Central Bank.

However, the fact that a double-dip is not likely does not mean that we have good economic news on the horizon. All the signs point to several years of weak growth. At best the economy is growing at the 2.5 percent rate needed to keep pace with the growth of the labor force, and it may be growing more slowly. This would mean that the unemployment rate will rise from its current 9.1 percent rate.

This is in fact a truly awful picture. After severe downturns in the 70s and 80s the economy came roaring back, growing at 7-8 percent annual rates in peak quarters. This is the sort of growth that is necessary to quickly bring the unemployment rate down to more tolerable levels.

Unfortunately, these sorts of growth rates are nowhere on the horizon. This is why the double-dip story is so pernicious. If a double-dip is treated as a realistic scenario then even the slow growth that we are likely to see looks good by comparison. Instead of being outraged over our leaders’ failure to produce respectable growth we end up applauding them for avoiding a recession.

We can’t allow the bar for success to be set ridiculously low. We need real growth; avoiding a double-dip is nothing to brag about.

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  1. Bernard Mallia
    August 25, 2011 at 11:47 am

    I have been following Dean Baker’s commentaries for quite some time and usually I am in full agreement with his remarks and analyses.

    However, I have to admit that I am totally at odds with this one and that it is something with which I absolutely disagree.

    The root causes of most recessions, as Irving Fisher, Hyman Minsky and lately Steve Keen have rightly explained, lie in debt and wealth production. When wealth production covers debt repayments (interest and principal) well, the stock of debt usually rises further and brings about economic growth.

    When the reverse applies and deleveraging is the order of the day you can expect the reverse to happen. The US Government will be deleveraging big time and that means that a lot of circulating cash will be taken out of circulation and will result in contractions in the economic activity. This also means that this move is likely to spur further private sector deleveraging, which would add to the contraction in economic activity.

    I therefore do fail to see how another recession or a prolonged stagnation a la Japan can be avoided given the US Government’s and the European Union’s policy stances.

  2. August 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    A double dip does not necessarily mean another plunge in GDP similar to the 2008-2009 recession. A double dip merely means another small decline from our current slight upturn (or even bouncing up and down near the bottom of the economy where every down can mean another dip)– rather than a somewhat vigorous expansion and drop in unemployment.

    Do we expect a dip similar to the 1937-38 recession inside the Great Depression? Well if Republicans such as Paul Ryan or other Tea Party types gain control of Washington I suspect we can have another 1937-type plunge (rather than dip) in 2013-2014. But with the Obama people still in part control of Washington politics — but looking for a “Grand Compromise” I can not see how any significant strong recovery type growth can occur during 2012. And with the Euro problem and the yen exchange rate dance going on — I think the foreign sector can cause some slowdown in US GDP.

    But let us hope Dean is rght. it is amazing that Dean’s forecast of slow growth can be seen as the most optimistic forecast.

    Of course since the future is generated by a nonergodic stochastic process– and therefore any forecast is never scientific in the sense of probability based on a significant statistical analysis of past and current data– we can hope for the best while expecting the Tea Party worst.

  3. August 25, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Bouncing along close to bottom is indeed pretty ugly and certainly gives rise to fear of a possible negative two quarters ,which is what most non Americans define as a recession.

    What about the trade side Dean? – my sense is that the US trade deficit could well widen if growth is slowing in emerging economies

  4. August 26, 2011 at 4:36 am

    My guess is we are in the first negative quarter right now. While consumption is 70 percent of the economy, it is not the part of the economy responsible for growth. That is investment. Since there is no investment, it is filled in by government deficits. Trillion dollar deficits. And it is the Age of Austerity across the world I say “Age,” maybe the “Year” of Austerity. Hard to see how something so dumb could last very long. But the point is, governments are going to try to cut deficits by cutting spending, read jobs and supports to consumption.

    The trend analysis that served so well in identifying the dot.com bubble and the housing bubble is, I fear, less effective in projecting forward from the bouncing along the bottom of an employment recession that never really ended.

    Re investment: Construction and housing are in the tank. The equipment and software may be significant. Or it may be purchases brought forward by tax concessions. Or it may be spending in lieu of hiring.

    I do agree with Dean that incompetents are running the central banks.

  5. August 29, 2011 at 1:05 am

    for a double dip to occur, we’d have to grow out of the initial recession. Productivity didn’t grow, the money supply did (by 200%!) – goosing the markets primarily, and doing damn little for employment. The housing bubble is still deflating. Growth in discretionary spending has been weak, and with employment scraping along the bottom who expects it to grow much? I’m less concerned about the appearance of double dips, then the real threat of a federal debt bubble popping, and triggering a dollar bubble burst. Hello inflation.

  6. August 30, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    @LarryM

    I don’t know where you’re based but if in UK, you need to know that today’s Daily Express headline was ‘House prices to soar by 21%… over next five years according to economists’. You’re obviously not the ‘right’ sort of economist.

    And you are of course bang on the nail about the double dip myth. As the FT’s Gillian Tett predicted over 2 years ago, the recovery is bank shape (i.e. the shorthand sign for ‘bank’).

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