Econometric fictionalism
from Lars Syll
If you can’t devise an experiment that answers your question in a world where anything goes, then the odds of generating useful results with a modest budget and nonexperimental survey data seem pretty slim. The description of an ideal experiment also helps you formulate causal questions precisely. The mechanics of an ideal experiment highlight the forces you’d like to manipulate and the factors you’d like to hold constant.
Research questions that cannot be answered by any experiment are fundamentally unidentified questions.
One of the limitations of economics is the restricted possibility to perform experiments, forcing it to mainly rely on observational studies for knowledge of real-world economies.
But still — the idea of performing laboratory experiments holds a firm grip on our wish to discover (causal) relationships between economic ‘variables.’If we only could isolate and manipulate variables in controlled environments, we would probably find ourselves in a situation where we with greater ‘rigour’ and ‘precision’ could describe, predict, or explain economic happenings in terms of ‘structural’ causes, ‘parameter’ values of relevant variables, and economic ‘laws.’
Galileo Galilei’s experiments are often held as exemplary for how to perform experiments to learn something about the real world. Galileo’s heavy balls dropping from the tower of Pisa, confirmed that the distance an object falls is proportional to the square of time and that this law (empirical regularity) of falling bodies could be applicable outside a vacuum tube when e. g. air existence is negligible.
The big problem is to decide or find out exactly for which objects air resistance (and other potentially ‘confounding’ factors) is ‘negligible.’ In the case of heavy balls, air resistance is obviously negligible, but how about feathers or plastic bags?
One possibility is to take the all-encompassing-theory road and find out all about possible disturbing/confounding factors — not only air resistance — influencing the fall and build that into one great model delivering accurate predictions on what happens when the object that falls is not only a heavy ball but feathers and plastic bags. This usually amounts to ultimately stating some kind of ceteris paribus interpretation of the ‘law.’
Another road to take would be to concentrate on the negligibility assumption and to specify the domain of applicability to be only heavy compact bodies. The price you have to pay for this is that (1) ‘negligibility’ may be hard to establish in open real-world systems, (2) the generalization you can make from ‘sample’ to ‘population’ is heavily restricted, and (3) you actually have to use some ‘shoe leather’ and empirically try to find out how large is the ‘reach’ of the ‘law.’
In mainstream economics, one has usually settled for the ‘theoretical’ road (and in case you think the present ‘natural experiments’ hype has changed anything, remember that to mimic real experiments, exceedingly stringent special conditions standardly have to obtain).
In the end, it all boils down to one question — are there any Galilean ‘heavy balls’ to be found in economics, so that we can indisputably establish the existence of economic laws operating in real-world economies?
As far as I can see there are some heavy balls out there, but not even one single real economic law.
Economic factors/variables are more like feathers than heavy balls — non-negligible factors (like air resistance and chaotic turbulence) are hard to rule out as having no influence on the object studied.
Galilean experiments are hard to carry out in economics, and the theoretical ‘analogue’ models economists construct and in which they perform their ‘thought experiments’ build on assumptions that are far away from the kind of idealized conditions under which Galileo performed his experiments. The ‘nomological machines’ that Galileo and other scientists have been able to construct have no real analogues in economics. The stability, autonomy, modularity, and interventional invariance, that we may find between entities in nature, simply are not there in real-world economies. That’s are real-world fact, and contrary to the beliefs of most mainstream economists, they won’t go away simply by applying deductive-axiomatic economic theory with tons of more or less unsubstantiated assumptions.
By this, I do not mean to say that we have to discard all (causal) theories/laws building on modularity, stability, invariance, etc. But we have to acknowledge the fact that outside the systems that possibly fulfil these requirements/assumptions, they are of little substantial value. Running paper and pen experiments on artificial ‘analogue’ model economies is a sure way of ‘establishing’ (causal) economic laws or solving intricate econometric problems of autonomy, identification, invariance and structural stability — in the model world. But they are pure substitutes for the real thing and they don’t have much bearing on what goes on in real-world open social systems. Setting up convenient circumstances for conducting Galilean experiments may tell us a lot about what happens under those kinds of circumstances. But — few, if any, real-world social systems are ‘convenient.’ So most of those systems, theories and models, are irrelevant for letting us know what we really want to know.
To solve, understand, or explain real-world problems you actually have to know something about them — logic, pure mathematics, data simulations or deductive axiomatics don’t take you very far. Most econometrics and economic theories/models are splendid logic machines. But — applying them to the real world is a totally hopeless undertaking! The assumptions one has to make in order to successfully apply these deductive-axiomatic theories/models/machines are devastatingly restrictive and mostly empirically untestable– and hence make their real-world scope ridiculously narrow. To fruitfully analyze real-world phenomena with models and theories you cannot build on patently and known to be ridiculously absurd assumptions. No matter how much you would like the world to entirely consist of heavy balls, the world is not like that. The world also has its fair share of feathers and plastic bags.
Most of the ‘idealizations’ we find in mainstream economic models are not ‘core’ assumptions, but rather structural ‘auxiliary’ assumptions. Without those supplementary assumptions, the core assumptions deliver next to nothing of interest. So to come up with interesting conclusions you have to rely heavily on those other — ‘structural’ — assumptions.
In physics, we have theories and centuries of experience and experiments that show how gravity makes bodies move. In economics, we know there is nothing equivalent. So instead mainstream economists necessarily have to load their theories and models with sets of auxiliary structural assumptions to get any results at all in their models.
So why then do mainstream economists keep on pursuing this modelling project?
Mainstream ‘as if’ models are based on the logic of idealization and a set of tight axiomatic and ‘structural’ assumptions from which consistent and precise inferences are made. The beauty of this procedure is, of course, that if the assumptions are true, the conclusions necessarily follow. But it is a poor guide for real-world systems.
The way axioms and theorems are formulated in mainstream economics often leaves their specification without almost any restrictions whatsoever, safely making every imaginable evidence compatible with the all-embracing ‘theory’ — and theory without informational content never risks being empirically tested and found falsified. Used in mainstream ‘thought experimental’ activities, it may, of course, be very ‘handy,’ but totally void of any empirical value.
Some economic methodologists have lately been arguing that economic models may well be considered ‘minimal models’ that portray ‘credible worlds’ without having to care about things like similarity, isomorphism, simplified ‘representationality’ or resemblance to the real world. These models are said to resemble ‘realistic novels’ that portray ‘possible worlds’. And sure: economists constructing and working with those kinds of models learn things about what might happen in those ‘possible worlds’. But is that really the stuff real science is made of? I think not. As long as one doesn’t come up with credible export warrants to real-world target systems and show how those models — often building on idealizations with known to be false assumptions — enhance our understanding or explanations about the real world, well, they are just nothing more than just novels. Showing that something is possible in a ‘possible world’ doesn’t give us a justified license to infer that it therefore also is possible in the real world. ‘The Great Gatsby’ is a wonderful novel, but if you truly want to learn about what is going on in the world of finance, I would recommend rather reading Minsky or Keynes and directly confronting real-world finance.
Different models have different cognitive goals. Constructing models that aim for explanatory insights may not optimize the models for making (quantitative) predictions or deliver some kind of ‘understanding’ of what’s going on in the intended target system. All modelling in science has tradeoffs. There simply is no ‘best’ model. For one purpose in one context model A is ‘best’, for other purposes and contexts model B may be deemed ‘best’. Depending on the level of generality, abstraction, and depth, we come up with different models. But even so, I would argue that if we are looking for what I have called ‘adequate explanations’ (Syll, Ekonomisk teori och metod, Studentlitteratur, 2005) it is not enough to just come up with ‘minimal’ or ‘credible world’ models.
The assumptions and descriptions we use in our modelling have to be true — or at least ‘harmlessly’ false — and give a sufficiently detailed characterization of the mechanisms and forces at work. Models in mainstream economics do nothing of the kind.
Coming up with models that show how things may possibly be explained is not what we are looking for. It is not enough. We want to have models that build on assumptions that are not in conflict with known facts and that show how things actually are to be explained. Our aspirations have to be more far-reaching than just constructing coherent and ‘credible’ models about ‘possible worlds’. We want to understand and explain ‘difference-making’ in the real world and not just in some made-up fantasy world. No matter how many mechanisms or coherent relations you represent in your model, you still have to show that these mechanisms and relations are at work and exist in society if we are to do real science. Science has to be something more than just more or less realistic ‘story-telling’ or ‘explanatory fictionalism.’ You have to provide decisive empirical evidence that what you can infer in your model also helps us to uncover what actually goes on in the real world. It is not enough to present your students with epistemically informative insights about logically possible but non-existent general equilibrium models. You also, and more importantly, have to have a world-linking argumentation and show how those models explain or teach us something about real-world economies. If you fail to support your models in that way, why should we care about them? And if you do not inform us about what are the real-world intended target systems of your modelling, how are we going to be able to value or test them? Without giving that kind of information it is impossible for us to check if the ‘possible world’ models you come up with actually hold also for the one world in which we live — the real world.
“In physics, we have theories and centuries of experience and experiments that show how gravity makes bodies move.”
Why ignore the 95% of the universe (68% dark energy, 27% dark matter) where we don’t understand how gravity makes bodies move, any better than aether theory?
Why did Roman bridge builders build great bridges, despite believing in a failed theory of gravity that predicted heavier slabs of stone slid down their ramps faster than lighter ones? Could we be as mistaken about gravity today, but our error margins are so wide it covers up for flawed theory?
Is McCloskey right that science is a bad model for economics to envy?
“Nothing is gained from clinging to the Scientific Method […] because the methodology does not describe the sciences it was once thought to describe, such as physics or mathematics; and because physics or mathematics are not good models for economics anyway; […]” (The Rhetoric of Economics, McCloskey, 1983, linked from Wikipedia)
When I read McClodky in 1983, I knew the science pretentions in economics were just that, preteentons unrealiizeablle.
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At the end of the month I will become 87 years old my problem is that before finish a post I am so slow that it disappears.
This morning a news item stated that the G20 had failed to reach agreement on Kurian. Here there is much that i would like to say. To me this indicates, that, like many other organization’s, they are a bunch of morons disconnected from the real world. Hopefully my head may be a little tomorrow and I can give fuller explanation.
I’m 91 and just wrote a memoire io daughter and half-sister.
Well we all agree that macroeconomics in particular has taken a wrong turning. Leontieff was not the only one who saw it coming. They include G.L.S.Shackle and, pre-eminently, H.A.Simon who also sounded the warning bell.
RSM points out correctly that bridge-building does not depend on having the right theory of gravity. Much of classical physics feeds usefully into engineering even though it was confected in ignorance of quantum theory and the behaviour of fundamental particles. Indeed, we can hit an asteroid with a rocket even though we have no idea what dark matter or dark energy are or whether they are “real”.
Doing economics means hoping that this “Russian dolls” nature of reality whereby you can know something without having to know everything applies in the social studies too.
Lars admires Keynes, who certainly brought a lot of worldly experience to his theorising. Yet his theorising abstracted from important elements, didn’t precisely define its domain of application, and was still ready to come to firm conclusions and even advise policy. He didn’t offer much evidence to provide a warrant of applicability to “target systems” either. Surely Keynes doesn’t escape Lars opprobrium just because he wrote it out in words rather than equations? It would be good to know why Keynes so entirely escapes Lars criticism of economic theorising.
You have mentioned a few authors whom I have just not managed to find the time to read yet. The sound interesting Gerald. Any reading suggestions?
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Some sources would be nice.
I like rsm reference to some of Mcclosky, fearless honesty in expressing her opinion, (I actually met her at the 2004 Cambridge conference. I also have admired Robert Lock a person with a clear mind and many years experience in the real world,
Then this morning on the news it was said that Blinken stated that if Russia gets away with its marcours efforts to crucify Kurian, then it is obvious there is no limits to its efforts to expands its control many states in the area. Notably many of the people I associate with express the same view, I think if this attitude could be harnessed it could do a lot to help Kurian. Here i acknowledge the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT is making a good effort to support Ukrain.
Yesterday i thought of my understanding of Nestorian philosophy that states that if there is a bad apple in the case the only way to save the rest is to get rid of the bad apple. Thus Putin has to be restrained from his murderous intentions. CERTAINLY THERE ARE RISKS .but if he is not restrained, there is not much future for any of us.Ted
my wife’s father spent 20 years in the Gulag, and was constanly harrased by the bolsheviks thereafter untll he got to PPoland. his wife’s land. Thats real world experience.
Thanks Robert Locke YES, it is your experience and observation! that makes you the man that you are. Over the years i have had friends that escaped from Hungary, and still have Polish friends who were among the children who escaped from a Russian concentration camp after loosing most of their family. The point is these people are very concerned when they see history repeating itself because leaders fail to realy support people being oppressed. Thus in my opinion we have to stand shoulder to shoulder with those being oppressed. My mother used to tell us children that actions speak louder than words. Here if some of the news items are correct, much of the promised aid to the Ukranians is very slow in getting to them. Ted
Refs. by H.A. Simon:
Models of Man: Social and Rational, Wiley 1957
Models of My Life, Basic Books 1991
Bounded rationality and organizational learning, in Organizational Science, 2 no1 1991
Economics and Psychology reprinted in Models of Bounded Rationality vol2 MIT Press 1982
Organizations and Markets, in Journal of Economic Perspectives 5 spring 1991
An Empirically Based Microeconomics, Cambridge University Press 1997
The Sciences of the Artificial, 3rd edition 1996 MIT Press
Invariants of human behaviour, in Annual Review of Psychology, 41 1990
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GLS Shackle:
Imagination and the Nature of Choice. Edinburgh University Press 1979.
For more, look him up on Google.
Thanks Gerald, much appreciated.
Some people don’t think that studying human societies admits of a “scientific” approach, i.e. the search for regularities or patterns in events that depend on general principles. Every event is unique with multiple causes, as any historian will tell you.
Even some historians, though, attempt to draw conclusions, i.e. make generalisations from history so the search for an understanding based on some sort of theory seems certain to continue. Theorising about something in which we are embedded and which is a human creation not “given” by physical laws (though constrained by them) was Simon’s theme in “The Sciences of the Artificial”. He was an unashamed scientist who saw that economics, political science and psychology should not be in silos, and the methods of computer science were necessary to explore them as a whole.
Literature provides copious insights but eventually we need to establish what can be said to be true, what can’t and where we need to reserve judgement. Of course there are not many eternal verities in social studies because the verities change with society. Still some things are as true of an economy today as they were in 1922. Establishing the current verities indeed requires us to collect data and to “know” it. Economics all too often has a casual attitude to data and an attachment to over-simple models. Even if you ,model well and research carefully and honestly, “sceptics” will still not be persuaded. To a through-going philosophical sceptic, the existence of an external world outside his own sense-data, cannot be established, far less anything else. Some people can never be satisfied.
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“Some people” sounds more like a conspiracy theory than sound argument. Kind of like trying to turn the straw man “solipsist” into a reality by mere rhetoric.
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Rhetoric is a poor substitute for substantive arguments.
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I am reading Simon’s The Science of the Artificial now. I have been in the field of computer science for over thirty years. I have worked on compilers, machine learning, and artificial intelligence. I have also studied for over those many years the history, philosophy, and theory of theoretical evolutionary biology. I am well aware of how biological metaphors are used and abused sciences outside of biology (and sometimes by biologists themselves, e.g., Richard Dawkins). For now, I reserve any comments on Simon’s Science of the Artificial, but this much I can say. His understanding of biology as of this specific text is out-of-date and his biological metaphors (which he bases his complexity theories upon) are reminiscent of bean-bag-genetics and the age of molecular biology’s reductionist heydays. Those days are over except for the hardest of hardcore dogmatists.
historiography is a constant preoccupaion among historians. original sources take presidence over secondary. methodology is constantly questioned when historians discuss their craft. Language knowlege is essential to study a country in context. I learned French, German to write from historical sources and contemporary observers. Now methodolgy is everything. Economists lack the historian’s skills.
Gerald said: “we need to establish what can be said to be true, what can’t and where we need to reserve judgement. […] To a through-going philosophical sceptic, the existence of an external world outside his own sense-data, cannot be established, far less anything else. Some people can never be satisfied.”
How do you answer Berkeley in the Analyst?
Quoting Wikipedia’s article on “The Analyst”:
“Berkeley sought to take mathematics apart, claimed to uncover numerous gaps in proof, attacked the use of infinitesimals, the diagonal of the unit square, the very existence of numbers, etc. The general point was not so much to mock mathematics or mathematicians, but rather to show that mathematicians, like Christians, relied upon incomprehensible ‘mysteries’ in the foundations of their reasoning. Moreover, the existence of these ‘superstitions’ was not fatal to mathematical reasoning, indeed it was an aid. So too with the Christian faithful and their ‘mysteries’. Berkeley concluded that the certainty of mathematics is no greater than the certainty of religion.”
How do pragmatists answer McCloskey in some further quotations from “The Rhetoric of Economics”?
“[…] ‘modernism,’ that is, the notion (as Booth puts it) that we know only what we cannot doubt and cannot really know what we can merely assent to. […] Modernism promises knowledge free from doubt, metaphysics, morals, and personal conviction; what it delivers merely renames the Scientific Method the scientist’s and especially the economic scientist’s metaphysics, morals, and personal convictions. […] Scientific knowledge is no different from other personal knowledge (Polanyi, 1962). […] The laws come from a rhetoric of tradition or introspection, and in physics as in economics “quantitative studies … are explorations with the aid of a theory” (Coase, p.17), searches for numbers with which to make specific a theory already believed on other grounds (see Edward Leamer, 1978 […]) […] Other sciences, even the other mathematical sciences, even the Queen herself, are rhetorical. Mathematics appears to an incognoscento to be the limiting example of objectivity, explicitness, and demonstrability. Surely here is a bedrock for belief. Yet the standards of mathematical demonstration change. The last fifty years have been a disappointment to followers of David Hilbert and his program to put mathematics on indubitable foundations. […] One can even say the same of physics, that favorite of outsiders seeking a prescription for real, objective, positive, predictive science. The sequence Carnap-Popper-Lakatos-Kuhn-Feyerabend represents in the history and philosophy of physics a descent, accelerating recently, from the frigid peaks of scientific absolutism to the sweet valleys of anarchic rhetoric […]”
Also: “the worst flaw in the hostility to ‘metaphysics’ that modernism sees everywhere is that the hostility is itself metaphysical. If metaphysics is to be cast into the flames, then the methodological declarations of the modernist family from Descartes through Hume and Comte to Russel and Hempel and Popper will be the first to go.”
In other words, are we permitted to challenge Fed Chairman Jay Powell’s belief that interest rates is the best way to treat inflation? Or is that truth a divine revelation, an economic truth upon which none may be permitted to reserve judgment?
Samuel Johson “refuted” Berkeley’s idealism by kicking an actual physical object, a stone, and saying “I refute it thus”. Not really a proof but you see what he meant. Every human intellectual activity starts with unverified assumptions. You can only test them by assuming something else. Quine pointed out that anything can be tested but not everything can be tested, not all at once. In the end this does not seem to be all-important. Life is lived. Science extends its domain and technologies improve. Russell made the interesting point that the unprovable basic assumptions are somehow justified retrospectively. If the activity on which they are based turns out to be useful, that reflects well on them. Smart phones, electric motors, and much of the apparatus of modern life would not have been discoverable without mathematics. Maths works. That, not its metaphysical foundations is its ultimate justification.
Not sure what that’s got to do with Powell’s view of interest rates. But who ever said it was unchallengeable? I, for one, think Fed policy has been, and is, misguided.
I would be interested in the cliff notes version of your opinion on this topic. My wife asked me just the other day about this very issue. I too think Fed Policy is misguided; a blunt instrument, like doing surgery with a baseball bat and wondering why the patient is so black and blue.
I reread Wassily Leontief and found interesting his distinction between casual empiricism and factual analysis. Leontief distinguishes between the scientist engaged in casual empiricism, specifically the econometrician, and one engaged in factual analysis. Leontief characterizes the casual empiricist (aka econometrician) as one who is centrally focused on creating formal models based upon assumptions that have not been verified to “possess observable quantitative dimensions” and utilizing increasingly sophisticated statistical tools with a careless attitude of “comfortable self-sufficiency” treating statistical analysis as an “orderly” and “systematic” procedure with few ambiguities and little or no need to go into the field and do some primary research or consider the insights and findings of other fields. A hubris filled carelessness with fact and truth devoid any self-awareness of the social consequences of how their own pseudo-quantitative work summed up as, “If you don’t like my set of assumptions, give me another and I will gladly make another model; have your pick.”[1]
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He then provides an example of Agricultural Economics to highlight what he means by “factual analysis” and how one might go about it. In this example he lists a few methodologies and practices that provide for research that collects the data and goes beyond “undue reliance on indirect statistical inference” to achieve a deeper understanding what Leontief calls the “structural characteristics and functioning of” of the given target domain under study:
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It seems that old ideas are new again, for Leontief’s argument is the same as Spiegler’s (here, and here).
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Economics, like biology, has gone through a great constriction in the kinds of questions it can ask, the kinds of methodologies—hence evidence—it can consider, and the kinds of theoretical underpinning that are considered “mainstream” or “scientific”:
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In biology the organism and its development became backgrounded, if not completely excluded, from the Modern Synthesis largely because of the successful establishment of a research program in the mathematization of the field of genetics in Morgan’s “fly room.” The individual organism and its development were eclipsed by the statistical analysis of populations and shifting allele frequencies.
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Starting in the 1990s with the discovery of “deep homology” as revealed in the regulatory genome and epigenetics this is no longer the case. The parallel between biology and economics is interesting and, I believe, would be useful in understanding what is happening within the field of economics today since biology seems to be further along in this process. But alas, comments on a blog are not a place to attempt such a study.
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Sorry that comment got lost somehow but the world is not much worse off for losing it and I can’t be bothered to re-write it!