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Marx, 200.0

Tomorrow will be the 200th anniversary of Marx. A lot of people write about this. The most interesting pieces I read were by Veblen (1906 part 1 and part 2). Some excerpts (the beginning of part 1 and the end of part 2, as always with Veblen one has to read the whole thing). One of the main points of Veblen is that Marx takes the ideas of ‘bourgeois’ economists more serious than these economists themselves, culminating among other things in the idea that, in an economics sense, ‘capital’ is not machines or buildings but ownership rights of such assets, ownership rights which enable the owners to drain money from companies and to boss labour around.

Part 1: 

The system of doctrines worked out by Marx is characterized by a certain boldness of conception and a great logical consistency.

Taken in detail, the constituent elements of the system are neither novel nor iconoclastic, nor does Marx at any point claim to have discovered previously hidden facts or to have invented recondite formulations of facts already known; but the system as a whole has an air of originality and initiative such as is rarely met with among the sciences that deal with any phase of human culture. How much of this distinctive character the Marxian system owes to the personal traits of its creator is not easy to say, but what marks it off from all other systems of economic theory is not a matter of personal idiosyncrasy. It differs characteristically from all systems of theory that had preceded it, both in its premises and in its aims. The (hostile) critics of Marx have not sufficiently appreciated the radical character of his departure in both of these respects, and have, therefore, commonly lost themselves in a tangled scrutiny of supposedly abstruse details; whereas those writers who have been in sympathy with his teachings have too commonly been disciples bent on exegesis and on confirming their fellow-disciples in the faith.

Except as a whole and except in the light of its postulates and aims, the Marxian system is not only not tenable, but it is not even intelligible. A discussion of a given isolated feature of the system (such as the theory of value) from the point of view of classical economics (such as that offered by Bohm-Bawerk) is as futile as a discussion of solids in terms of two dimensions.

Neither as regards his postulates and preconceptions nor as regards the aim of his inquiry is Marx’s position an altogether single-minded one In neither respect does his position come of a single line of antecedents. He is of no single school of philosophy, nor are his ideals those of any single group of speculators living before his time. For this reason he takes his place as an originator of a school of thought as well as the leader of a movement looking to a practical end.

As to the motives which drive him and the aspiration which guide him, in destructive criticism and an creative speculation alike, he is primarily a theoretician busied with the analysis of economic phenomena and their organization into a consistent and faithful system of scientific knowledge; but he is, at the same time, consistently and tenaciously alert to the bearing which each step in the progress of his theoretical work has upon the propaganda. His work has, therefore, an air of bias, such as belongs to an advocate’s argument; but it is not, therefore, to be assumed, nor indeed to be credited, that his propagandist aims have in any substantial way deflected his inquiry or his speculations from the faithful pursuit of scientific truth. His socialistic bias may color his polemics, but his logical grasp is too neat and firm to admit of an bias, other than that of his metaphysical preconceptions, affecting his theoretical work.

There is no system of economic theory more logical than that of Marx. No member of the system, no single article of doctrine, is fairly to be understood, criticised, or defended except as an articulate member of the whole and in the light of the preconceptions and postulates which afford the point of departure and the controlling norm of the whole. As regards these preconceptions and postulates, Marx draws on two distinct lines of antecedents, — the Materialistic Hegelianism and the English system of Natural Rights. … He does not take a critical attitude toward the underlying principles of Natural Rights. Even his Hegelian preconceptions of development never carry him the length of questioning the fundamental principles of that system. He is only more ruthlessly consistent in working out their content than his natural-rights antagonists in the liberal-classical school. His polemics run against the specific tenets of the liberal school, but they run wholly on the ground afforded by the premises of that school. The ideals of his propaganda are natural-rights ideals, but his theory of the working out of these ideals in the course of history rests on the Hegelian metaphysics of development, and his method of speculation and construction of theory is given by the Hegelian dialectic.

Part 2:

The socialism of Karl Marx is characteristically inclined to peaceable measures and disinclined to a coercive government and belligerent politics. It is, or at least it was, strongly averse to international jealousy and patriotic animosity, and has taken a stand against armaments, wars, and dynastic aggrandizement. At the time of the French-Prussian war the official organization of Marxism, the International, went so far in its advocacy of peace as to urge the soldiery on both sides to refuse to fight. After the campaign had warmed the blood of the two nations, this advocacy of peace made the International odious in the eyes of both French and Germans. War begets patriotism, and the socialists fell under the reproach of not being sufficiently patriotic. After the conclusion of the war, the Socialistic Workingmen’s Party of Germany sinned against the German patriotic sentiment in a similar way and with similarly grave results.

Since the foundation of the empire and of the Social-Democratic party, the socialists and their doctrines have passed thru a further experience of a similar kind, but on a larger scale and more protracted. The government has gradually strengthened its autocratic position at home, increased its warlike equipment, and enlarged its pretensions in international politics, until what would have seemed absurdly impossible a generation ago is now submitted to by the German people, not only with a good grace, but with enthusiasm. During all this time that part of the population that has adhered to the socialist ideals has also grown gradually more patriotic and more loyal, and the leaders and keepers of socialist opinion have shared in the growth of chauvinism with the rest of the German people. But at no time have the socialists been able to keep abreast of the general upward movement in this respect. They have not attained the pitch of reckless loyalty that animates the conservative German patriots, although it is probably safe to say that the Social Democrats of to-day are as good and headlong patriots as the conservative Germans were a generation ago. During all this period of the new era of German political life the socialists have been freely accused of disloyalty to the national ambition, of placing their international aspirations above the ambition of imperial aggrandizement.

The socialist spokesmen have been continually on the defensive. They set out with a round opposition to any considerable military establishment, and have more and more apologetically continued to oppose any “undue” extension of the warlike establishments and the warlike policy. But with the passage of time and the habituation to warlike politics and military discipline, the infection of jingoism has gradually permeated the body of Social Democrats, until they have now reached such a pitch of enthusiastic loyalty as they would not patiently hear a truthful characterization of. The spokesmen now are concerned to show that, while they still stand for international socialism, consonant with their ancient position, they stand for national aggrandizement first and for international comity second. The relative importance of the national ad the international ideals in German socialist professions has been reversed since the seventies.17 The leaders are busy with interpretation of their earlier formulations. They have come to excite themselves over nebulous distinctions between patriotism and jingoism. The Social Democrats have come to be German patriots first and socialists second, which comes to saving that they are a political party working for the maintenance of the existing order, with modifications. They are no longer a party of revolution, but of reform, tho the measure of reform which they demand greatly exceeds the Hohenzollern limit of tolerance. They are now as much, if not more, in touch with the ideas of English liberalism than with those of revolutionary Marxism.

The material and tactical exigencies that have grown out of changes in the industrial system and in the political situation, then, have brought on far-reaching changes of adaptation in the position of the socialists. The change may not be extremely large at any one point, so far as regards the specific articles of the program, but, taken as a whole, the resulting modification of the socialistic position is a very substantial one. The process of change is, of course, not yet completed, — whether or not it ever will be, but it is already evident that what is taking place is not so much a change in amount or degree of conviction on certain given points as a change in kind, – a change in the current socialistic habit of mind.

The factional discrepancies of theory that have occupied the socialists of Germany for some years past are evidence that the conclusion, even a provisional conclusion, of the shifting of their standpoint has not been reached. It is even hazardous to guess which way the drift is setting. It is only evident that the past standpoint, the standpoint of neo-Hegelian Marxism, cannot be regained, — it is a forgotten standpoint. For the immediate present the drift of sentiment, at least among the educated, seems to set toward a position resembling that of the National Socials and the Rev. Mr. Naumann; that is to say, imperialistic liberalism. Should the conditions, political, social, and economic, which to-day are chiefly effective in shaping the habits of thought among the German people, continue substantially unchanged and continue to be the chief determining causes, it need surprise no one to find German socialism gradually changing into a somewhat characterless imperialistic democracy. The imperial policy seems in a fair way to get the better of revolutionary socialism, not by repressing it, but by force of the discipline in imperialistic ways of thinking to which it subjects all classes of the population. How far a similar process of sterilization is under way, or is likely to overtake the socialist movement in other countries, is an obscure question to which the German object-lesson affords no certain answer.

 

  1. May 4, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    Socialist theory’s rise is a symptom of the fact that our understanding of Capitalism and of macroeconomics remains so poor. If we don’t improve our game here we may be doomed to another ruinous cycle of experimentation with these empirically discredited alternative sociopolitical systems of economic governance.

  2. May 4, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    To better understand the Capitalist system it might (just might…) be usefull to start off from the very basics, as found in classical Political Economy… And then proceed with a methodology akin to that of «Complexity Sciences» (or, one might say, dynamics of «Bio.Phisics» – every organic system is in permanent evolution with many «transition phases»).
    Then one may just come to the conclusion that you do not have to study all of what Karl Marx wrote in his good time, just like you do not have to read/study all of the «Principia» to grasp Newton’s theory of universal gravitation.
    Consider that the profit motive is a «sine qua non» condition of capitalist «laws of motion» and then try to investigate the behaviour of the rate of profit. You might be surprised to learn (or to find out) that both Karl Marx and Nobuo Okishio had it ritgh: some times the rate of profit goes down and sometimes it does go up. And that, in terms of «social engineering», it all depends on the crucial decision point – in the network of mercantile flows – where Society has to decide what to do with global economic surplus.
    Karl Marx, who may rightly be considered the Einstein (or Newton) of Social Sciences definitely deserved a better «following» than the one that seems to prevail these days, specially in «politically correct» academic circles.

  3. Prof James Beckman, Germany
    May 4, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    Thanks for the article. Having taken a lot of philosophy in college, some of it from German-speakers, & now living in Germany for many years, as an American I believe I understand Marx’s overview. 1) A few have much but most have little. 2) Much of life is accidental, due for example to one’s ancestors having performed well for someone in authority; thus, wealth can be dealt with as a distributable asset for others to use for survival/advancement, while the wealthy waste in living style & overproduce as capitalists. 3) The measure of a person is their willingness to work in any productive situation. In my sixteen years in Deutschland I see these principals at work every day: 1) Inequality; 2) Its accidental quality & frequent quest for balancing opportunities; 3) Effort is the standard we go by, together for many simplicity of living. And yes the overall logic seems rather tight & the social expression leads to a very satisfactory life for many if not most, it appears to me. Any Germans here to comment, by looking in the mirror so to speak? (This is a descriptive statement, as one’s personal values may not agree with the rectitude of each observation made above.)

    • culturalanalysis.net
      May 6, 2018 at 9:48 am

      I tend to be careful about Reification, because the fallacy can and often does work both ways. We can as much understate concreteness of some ‘abstractions’ as overstate it. I a proponent of Relational Ontology, following Geach, which admits of degrees of existence: https://culturalanalysis.net/2018/01/09/schema-reconciling-relational-and-absolute-being/

      The highest degree of existence or ‘concreteness’ need not be tactile; it may be a ‘social construct’ which is so fundamental to our individual existence that we cannot imagine a world without it, or it may even be constitutive of our agency, a condition of our existence. This high degrees of existence are deeply integrated in our conception of Reality. Lower degrees of existence may in turn be dictated by some contingent ideology, not well relationally integrated with other existents. I therefore first look at relational dependencies between the object of some ontological thesis and other objects, and if this looks weak then the object (which is always just a human description of an object) is relegated to ideology.

      Getting back on track, while Society may not exist as much as an individual, the human Kind, or the capacity for action, despite being logical abstractions, are nonetheless constitutive of individuality an therefore as real as my own being. As Badiou has put it, “the degree of existence of A is equal to its degree of identity to B”. The common of degrees of identity is then the degree of existence of the Kind.

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm

        I agree, culturalanalysis, but my work is teaching engineers & business majors how to do their jobs once employed. Lots of intuition is involved, but much of it must be communicated to others so that “communicability” as well as “concreteness” come into play in my line of endeavor. Thanks for the additional remarks!

  4. Craig
    May 4, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    When in doubt….integrate the truths in apparently opposing perspectives while simultaneously deleting their separate untruths, unworkabilities, inapplicabilities and lesser ethical considerations. Why? Because that is the very process of wisdom itself. It’s also the fulfillment of the Hegelian Dialectic

    [ (Thesis x Antithesis) Synthesis ]

    and (should be) the focus in progressing any system or body of knowledge.

    For instance:

    [ (Capitalism x Socialism) A profit making system of Direct and Reciprocally Distributed Monetary Gifting ]

    Theorizing and critiquing is all well and good, but Wisdom and its policy application is what we need in economics….and every area of life.

  5. culturalanalysis.net
    May 4, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    There is at least one aspect of Marx’s system that is inconsistent (the logical primacy of collective ownership) either within or apart from the system as a whole. This inconsistency is not obvious but comes down to the constitutive conditions of agency. In order to be agents we must have control of some property and of some means of production. Conversely, there is no collective agency that is not reducible to individuals agency, therefore there is no collective property which is not reducible to private property. I have argued this in more detail here: https://culturalanalysis.net/2018/04/23/the-fallacy-of-collectivism/

    • May 5, 2018 at 2:09 am

      “there is no collective agency that is not reducible to individuals agency” Really? Not armies, families, nation states, tribes, religious movements. No emergent properties at all at collective levels that are not predictable from individual motivation completely without system level context? That would make humans unique in the natural world: non-ecological beings, God like. Do you really believe that? And if so on what evidence?

      And I can’t make your link work so sorry if you address this issue in it. I have just been debating the Thatcher “there is no such thing as society” so forgive me if I misunderstand your point, which sounds comparable to the reductionist: everything is reducible to the laws of physics and sub-atomic particles. But I may be mistaken, often am.

      • culturalanalysis.net
        May 5, 2018 at 4:53 am

        All I am saying is that there is no intentional action at the group level which does not reduce to intentional action of individuals. Another way, rational thought (or just Thought) occurs only at individual level. Society, armies ect. obviously exist, they just are not capable of intentional action apart from choices and actions intended by individuals.

        While there may be phenomena which occur at the group level that exceed individual intentions and do not reduce to individual actions, such phenomena are not in themselves intentional, premeditated or rational.

        The link works from here, so might a browser or security software issue. Try different browser.

      • May 5, 2018 at 4:33 pm

        “While there may be phenomena which occur at the group level that exceed individual intentions and do not reduce to individual actions, such phenomena are not in themselves intentional, premeditated or rational.”

        Most individual actions are, research suggests, unconscious and not rational and even conscious ones in my experience are often perhaps mainly irrational: habitual, biased, self defeating, contrary to stated goals etc. Indeed much of individual behavior (I am in the conflict business) is indeed almost completely self defeating aka not linked to stated goal seeking. And my experience of organizations suggests that there are group intentional phenomena of enormous significance, that are unintelligible through the lens of atomistic individualism. Group think, organizational norms etc. Most people are not exactly existentialist freedom actors. They are members of herds with much social contagion. Indeed if they were not swarmy business and markets would find it hard to function. Semi-intelligent swarms is what I have seen. There are psychological experiments on measuring a stick that show how malleable most of us are to group pressure. Which is not surprising given how much of our evolution was in hunter gatherer bands where cooperation was essential to survival and selfish behavior that you didn’t conceal, likely to get you killed or banished which was about the same. Inuit when asked if they had sociopaths apparently replied that they did but they tended to fall off the ice quite young.

        And on the subject of private property some observations: 1) There was no private property before about 10,000 years ago: hunter gatherers have only a little: portable tools, weapons and minor food store owned by the band 2) For most of the last 10,000 years very few people had any private property: most lived in systems that were feudal, tribal, kingdoms, or anarchy with little private property and often no rule of law to make it stable if they had any 3) even today probably billions of people have no net private property: their debts > value of property 4) In most countries a fair % of property is state/collectively owned: Singapore I recall 80% of its land area is owned by the state and the figure is 28% in the US. Hard to imagine a society with only private property: I can’t recall one in history but open to correction.

        So private property as a large scale phenomena is a century or so old. Probably too early to say how it is working out. I guess we will see how long our civilization lasts and whether private property and its externalities bring it down or help it thrive. Whether it morphs into something else or reverts to some previous state or whether it stays exactly the same: not many people having much of it. I lean morph into something else a little different, a little more constrained by societal needs or civilization collapses. But no crystal ball here. Just scenario based futuring I suppose a la Peter Schwartz.

        And a footnote more widely addressed given this reply. I am also a little disappointed that in Real World Economics there is so little attention paid to economic history (I am an economic historian by training though I spent my career in business) and when there is, it is not much on the longue duree; but very recent times as the only thing of interest, though actually much of the economics profession attention span doesn’t seem even include 2008. It lives like good Zen Buddhists in the free market fundamentalist present: now and now and now. :)

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 5, 2018 at 6:18 pm

        Agreed, as we have lots of written material & archeological remains in much of Europe, just for starters. The Chinese can easily do the same, I expect.

      • culturalanalysis.net
        May 6, 2018 at 2:26 am

        “And my experience of organizations suggests that there are group intentional phenomena of enormous significance, that are unintelligible through the lens of atomistic individualism….
        There are psychological experiments on measuring a stick that show how malleable most of us are to group pressure.”

        It seems you are conflating how our intentions are socially influenced with the capacity to act on those intentions. Only an individual can act on intentional because only individuals have the unity of consciousness, a self.

        Also, practical irrationality does not negate the capacity to be rational, or be rational only sometimes. On a side note, your objection assumes that you are infallibly rational about judging others as being irrational, which is ‘begging the question’.

        I again stress that I do not argue that private vs public property is an all or nothing normative claim, only that private property rights are the logical basis and therefore have normative precendence over collective ownership. I nonetheless agree that in times of pure survival (much of human history) all one needed to claim as property were a fertile female and a spear. But development of Culture demands broader property rights for individuals, commensurate with their cultural interests. Also, even in the absence of recognition of property rights we were de facto possessors/occupiers of material objects and resources. Vagueness, overlapping or absence of our historical claims about property rights does not negate this practical fact.

      • May 6, 2018 at 3:25 am

        The capacity to act on intentions is socially influenced too. Most of the time we are on auto pilot. I don’t think I am especially rational. All that I say applies to me too. I just note the disjuncture between what people say they want and what they do that defeats it. I don’t do that noticing infallibly, and I am guilty of the disjuncture myself. I forecast exchange rate moves better than chance accurately but don’t short them.

        “only that private property rights are the logical basis and therefore have normative precendence over collective ownership.” I don’t see any evidence from you or in the world for this statement. Private property rights are a value and not really logical or not. They are judged by whether they exist, how they operate, and what their consequences are and how they relate to what we value and the latter is often decided by culture and group preferences as much as individual, but I guess if you are a hermit, just you. There is nothing logical in believing in them, in limiting or not limiting them except in relation to values that can’t be established logically only connected to other values and how reality works in practice.

        Your argument reminds me of a friend’s husband who thought it “logical” to get up and go to the ski lift on vacation at 7am when it wasn’t crowded and thought his wife who wanted to stay longer in bed was “illogical.” He couldn’t see it was a matter of different preferences not logic. Now if she had said her biggest preference was empty ski lifts then maybe some contradictions in the party line but not when staying in bed a bit longer was her preference. Your fundamentalist privileging of private property is your taste, your values and there is no logic in it except in the sense of consistency with other values. As I am well off, it is “logically” in your terms presumably in my interests to agree with you, but I don’t. :) My values suggest the preferred balance between private and collective property is pragmatic, varies by time and circumstance, by country, and group and individual preferences and values. No logic except in relation to other values.

      • culturalanalysis.net
        May 6, 2018 at 5:11 am

        “Private property rights are a value and not really logical or not.“

        In a sense yes, but, as I argue in the linked article ‘The individual capacity to claim ownership of value does not entail an intrinsic right to own property, but, I argue, this right is objectively normative nonetheless: it is a necessary condition of authority and responsibility’… (https://culturalanalysis.net/2018/04/23/the-fallacy-of-collectivism/)

      • May 6, 2018 at 1:31 pm

        I am afraid none of my browsers will accept your site as secure. Sorry about that. My browsers are pretty paranoid on my behalf, at extreme security settings but often mistaken, like me. :)

        But as for: “this right is objectively normative nonetheless: it is a necessary condition of authority and responsibility’… “. I don’t think anything is objectively normative. That to me is an oxymoron. Norms are things we and societies, cultures, organizations create out of preferences that I suppose are in turn ultimately physiological/cognitive creations of individuals and groups of individuals in various clusters: religions, political groups, tribes, armies, whatever. And I do not have much time for authority given its historical serial incompetence, such that for me, authority has to earn any respect on a line item basis. But there are a few authorities I have come to respect if tentatively.

        Responsibility I am personally big on as a value, but private property is a minor part of responsibility in my life. Indeed thinking about it, private property (probably because I have enough) is a very minor aspect of my life. I spend almost no time these days acquiring it, earning it or maintaining it; indeed I spend far more time getting rid of it responsibly. I like my kayak, bike and houses, cars useful but I don’t drive much. And I don’t obsess over property, have no interest in status, and the property is all low maintenance thankfully. I get rid of high maintenance property fast.Time is far more important than property. The marginal utility of additional property is probably significantly negative for me now.

        Pleasure to discuss these matters with you, but I guess I have reached the limit of how much time I want to spend discussing the minor matter of private property. And that’s a joke by the way. :)

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 6, 2018 at 8:56 am

        Hi, culturalanalysis.net, since I once studied philosophy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy). In other words, a “British society” or “American culture” does not exist concretely. We can only use our senses to note EXAMPLES of them. This is part of the age-old discussion of the existence of absolutes such as “Truth”, from Plato through Kant, & many others. We have many examples of “money”, for example, when we consider its normally defined characteristics of “medium of exchange, store of value, unit of value”

    • Prof James Beckman, Germany
      May 5, 2018 at 5:44 am

      Hi, would you clarify this with the Chinese as an example? (I teach there periodically.) As I understand their situation, the Chinese Communist Party acts as agent for the interests of the Chinese People, the collective owners. In turn, the Party through its executive delegates specific tasks in agency to particular individuals.

      • culturalanalysis.net
        May 5, 2018 at 6:19 am

        I think this conflates two different meanings of agency: conscious agency (the capacity to act on ones own reasons) and institutional agency (organisation tasked with serving someone interests). The latter meaning is a blanket term for the collective effect of individual conscious actions belonging to a group. It would be absurd to suggest that the communist party of China is acting in its own agential capacity, distinct from actions of individual agents. Would the party be able to make decisions if no one came to the party meeting? (rethorical question)

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 5, 2018 at 6:29 am

        Actually, culturalanalysis, I think Party members do both. One might say that their President accepts both roles, except when self-aggrandisement goes beyond limits imposed by the other (Party). Naturally it is individuals who act for themselves & for the organization (Chinese Communist Party here).

      • culturalanalysis.net
        May 5, 2018 at 7:18 am

        “Naturally it is individuals who act for themselves & for the organization”. That’s all I’m saying. This alone necessitates, or so I argue, that individual property rights ought to be given precedence over collective ownership, subject to pragmatic limitations in the interest of social stability which indirectly serves to preserve individual property rights.

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 5, 2018 at 10:56 am

        Thanks for clarification. And I agree with you.

      • May 5, 2018 at 11:56 am

        May I chip in with Levi-Strauss’s thought that the unit of society is not an individual but a family, and that internally, firms are cooperatives. The pragmatic limitatation suggested by Locke (and I’ve gathered recently by the Romans when pensioning off their legionaires) is that property rights should extend only to what one will (over time) use. When an individual is dead he can use nothing. His family or firm may continue to, but what they don’t use they should lose.

      • Prof James Beckman, Germany
        May 5, 2018 at 6:16 pm

        Hi, Dave, Levi-Strauss was big when I was in anthro grad school. Of course, he was speaking of what seems to have been the nature of society in its small group stage–many genetic lineages linked by a tribal identity. Since Roman warriors were originally free men with their own source of livlihood, no issue if they retired to their home areas. For those fighters who went to the frontiers–as of Germania–and settled in with the locals, there indeed was a reason to cover their needs in these areas, as they constituted an experienced back-up force to the younger men who replaced them. I have seen a lot of their presumed quarters as soldiers both in Germany & the UK.

  6. May 5, 2018 at 9:18 am

    See my section on Private Property in my paper — The Normative Foundations of Scarcity (June 1, 2012). https://ssrn.com/abstract=1554202
    Property rights are a social convention. The Cherokee Constitution states that the Cherokee lands will be common property. The common planetary resources — sunlight, air, water — these are all common property. We have collective ownership and social responsiblity. Like the person who claimed to own the stars in the Little Prince — private property is actually a state of mind — if everybody agrees to this, then it comes into being as a social artifact.

  7. Rhonda Kovac
    May 5, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    Fascinating article. I find especially interesting Marx’s apparent pacifism and the difference between his work and the political movements it spawned.

    • Prof James Beckman, Germany
      May 6, 2018 at 8:11 am

      Hi, Ronda, isn’t it interesting how democratic (& therefore vocalized) ideas can be appropriated for violent uses, as in the Russian Revolution (unnecessary slaughter) or even the scientist Einstein who gave us the theoretical basis for the atomic & hydrogen bombs?

  8. Craig
    May 6, 2018 at 9:16 am

    Modern economies do not tend toward general equilibrium, and they aren’t remediable by tweaking the current monetary and economic paradigm. The most accurate characterization of modern economies is:

    Dominatingly Smothered Financial Chaos

    Dominatingly smothered financial chaos, with an attending power and profit obsessed corporate elite that is largely independent from finance’s paradigm of Debt Only and so in many ways safe from and yet complicit in their domination. The new paradigm will end finance’s dominance and the corporate elites will need to embrace the new paradigm and its ethic of monetary grace as in gifting or eventually, and hopefully quickly, they will also take their place in the dust bin of history the same as private finance. But finance needs be the key factor, the real target and the unrelenting focus, not of mere reform, but of utter structural and paradigmatic change.

    The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. To whomever you attribute that quote it remains true, and when a paradigm change effecting so many aspects of human life and that has plagued human civilization for its entire history and consequently is utterly overdue….the necessity and rate of change of that arc is tremendously increased.

    • Prof James Beckman, Germany
      May 6, 2018 at 9:33 am

      Yup, Craig, we have Ayn Rand here–all the fantasy about the “lonely” entrepreneur, without any the the former institutional economics of America (without Socialism), say, which allowed businesses to care for their employees & communities. Socialism has never appealed to me because it seems not to reward those who get off their —– to learn & to earn.

  9. May 6, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    For your perusal… It’s a critique of Marx’s critique of the capitalist system. And it shows that regardless his no doubt laudable intentions, Marx’s methodology alas is a clumsy shamble of overdeterminateness, circular reasoning, contradictions, and even subterfuge.

    Click to access Marx_Debunked.pdf

  10. Calgacus
    May 6, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    culturalanalysis.net: there is no collective agency that is not reducible to individuals agency, therefore there is no collective property which is not reducible to private property.

    Asad Zaman:Property rights are a social convention. The Cherokee Constitution states that the Cherokee lands will be common property.
    Might I suggest Crawford Macpherson’s collection Property: Mainstream & Critical Positions, Toronto (1978), with selections from many authors. He basically grants culturalanalysis.net first clause above, but would say that the second is a non sequitur, at least according to what I think it means; on another reading, he agrees with culturalanalysis.net. But the most basic kind of property is not private, nor state (collective), but common property, all property being an individual right as culturalanalysis.net says. I think he is very clear and convincing, historically and conceptually. I generally think how things are used as in law, in experience, is a better guide than pure philosophizing. Which is too hard. The above may be a bit garbled, in a rush, don’t have book in front of me.

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