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Two ways to approach sustainability

from Ken Zimmerman

Ecosocialists aren’t even a political party, much less a political force in most of the western world. And certainly not in the top polluting nations in the world – China, Russia, India, and the USA. These four nations along with the EU hold the future of humans safely living on planet earth, of perhaps not living at all on that planet.

There are two ways to approach changing this situation – from people’s direct-action groups to local and then national governments. This is going on in the EU right now. Secondly, by seizing national governments and moving eco-ethical-justice policies outward from the national government. There is an effort to do this in the US during the 2020 elections. This approach involves an intermediate education process to bring churches, educational institutions, local governments, business, manufacturing, and finance into the work of redesigning all these areas in terms of eco-ethics-justice. I can’t see an advantage of one over the other. The path chosen would reflect the existing cultural situation in each nation and region. Mass changes in laws will be required, as will the assurance of effective and consistent enforcement procedures and personnel. Whichever route is chosen, a means must be worked out early in the process to make these changes cross- and multi-cultural, so they are implemented smoothly and consistently across the entire world.

What to do with dissenters is also a question that must be answered early on. Some dissenters will put up little struggle once large-scale cultural changes begin to happen. This is simply self-preservation. Other dissenters can, as suggested be brought along through money. How much money will be needed is uncertain, but it’s virtually a given there will be disputes, some violent about how and how much to value oil and natural gas and uranium reserves and physical facilities to extract each and deliver to usage sites. Finally, there are some dissenters who will never relent. They will sabotage the process, if possible and create uncertainty and disorder to delay the changes. Policies to deal with this last group of dissenters must be clear and must allow members of this group no opportunity to carry out their plans.

Finally, the answer to one question must be clear to all from the outset. How democratic will making these changes be? Many parts of the world would find non-democratic processes less objectionable. But considering tendencies in the world today supporting greater authoritarianism in government and daily life, drawing a clear line on how far democracy will be sacrificed in making these changes is essential. It would be tragic to end up fomenting “pro-democratic” revolutions opposing changes toward eco-ethical-justice policies. Finally, these are massive cultural changes. Making them successfully is a multi-decade, perhaps a multi-century process. Is there a century left for humans to make these changes? The technical changes (e.g., shifting to renewable energy, driving electric vehicles) are the easiest and fastest to make. The changes in everyday culture will be slow and difficult. Changing what and how we eat, how often we travel, reducing the use of personal vehicles, learning to use passive technologies, redesigning health care, redesigning education, etc. will require decades of socialization. Or, the strongest dictator the world has ever experienced.

https://rwer.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/the-ecosocialist-path-to-1-5c-sustainability/#comments

  1. June 13, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    One of the major drivers of consumption and hence pollution is the finance industry bent on maximizing profits which encourages increased debt (which is an asset to the banks due to double entry book keeping) and direct efforts to market obsolescence. Until this “frame” is changed, in both the developed and developing economies, the consumer is reinforced at both ends.

    The related problem is that most individual consumer’s future (retirement) is tied to the same system. Until this driver is changed, projects aimed at the consumer are faced with a well funded opposition.

  2. Jorge Buzaglo
    June 13, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    For the moment, what is really important, I think, is to rationally discuss what we mean by “eco-ethics-justice” across the entire world. A good example of such an analysis was by Elinor Ostrom et al. (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/319/5864/724.2).

    When it comes to possible global warning conflict scenarios, there are of course many. Really interesting and important are those that are most probably being discussed by the war planners of the principal military global powers. Any whistleblower over there?

  3. deshoebox
    June 13, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    Before figuring out how to get to sustainability, it might make sense to think about what it is and how we will know when we get there. I live in the US and am fairly sure that virtually no aspect of the life I grew up with and now take for granted is sustainable! Once I understand what I’m going to have to give up so that other people can live at all, how are you going to persuade me to do it? Forget about the dissenters. You can count on me and a lot of other people just like me to put up more than “a little struggle” once the necessary large-scale cultural changes begin to happen. And, by the way, the dissenters who will never relent are now running things and they are already sabotaging the process, creating uncertainty and disorder to delay the changes that are needed. Can we please try to be a little more realistic about this?

  4. culturalanalysis.net
    June 13, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    Direct-action based on ideology (be it “eco-justice”, socialism, or some doomsday prophecy) is not only anti-democratic, as you admit, but it is an implicit justification of political violence everywhere. And guess who is going to win if political violence is legitimised by the weak (spoiler: not the weak).

    As i as have argued here ( https://culturalanalysis.net/2018/08/11/a-pragmatic-case-for-democracy/ ): democracy is not detrimentally affected by incompetence or stupidity because its primary function is not finding the best possible solutions to practical problems but commits fallible, biased, irrational citizens to a process which neutralises or greatly mitigates political violence. Wise people should be able to agree on the most rational solution to every problem, but fools need a way of tolerating their irreconcilable disagreements without killing or enslaving one another.

  5. lobdillj
    June 14, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    This is a very important discussion. As far as I am aware, democracy always evolves into a two tier society that is controlled by the very rich and that makes the lower tier into perpetual debt slaves who are manipulated through the rules of democracy into tolerating their slavery instead of resulting in violent revolution.
    Also, when a democracy collapses, the previously enslaved poor have no coherence and no common understanding of why and what to do next, so whatever happens will result in a resumption of rule by the rich.
    Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) offers a new way to stabilize a sovereign fiat currency nation. It is being opposed by the 1% through the guidance of Wall Street and their paid “economists”. My articles on this subject are available on OpEdNews.com. I am also writing a book intended for general readers explaining how the US monetary system is rigged and how an MMT-based monetary system could eliminate debt slavery.

  6. June 14, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    I don’t wish to detract from some of the insights here, but as a mathematician I have no idea what a sustainable policy or ‘way of being’ would look like. https://www.quantamagazine.org/amie-wilkinsons-only-constant-is-change-20190613/ represents a long-standing view, that sustainability is not something that can be achieved by any such thing – unless there is some ‘brute fact’ of which mathematicians are unware?

    So whatever else we need, we seem to need to be continually critiqueing our current ways, looking out for the emerging threats to our sustainability, and coming together to deal with them. Clearly, democracy alone is not up to the job, particularly – as sometimes seems inevitable – if inequalities become so large that there is no understanding between hoi polloi and the de facto influencers. So what we need is an enlightened demos with understanding influencers. But how to achieve and sustain this? (Apart from good blogs!)

    • lobdillj
      June 15, 2019 at 12:07 am

      I have no idea what Amie Wilkinson is talking about…and I spent 30+ years doing operations research problems. I do, however, believe I know the difference between a time function that is periodic and one that is aperiodic. To my mind, sustainability means that atmospheric CO2 does not ascend to a level that causes global average temperatures in excess of that which permits life to continue on the planet.

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