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Outside the neoclassical realm, ‘endogenous money’ is not heterodox. A response to the ideas of Krugman.

From commenter Londoned:

Many years ago I was once in what was then Dillon’s university bookshop in Mallet Street, London, and looking at Kuhn’s book and Karl Popper walked up to where I was standing and noticed what I was reading and said: “Scientific revolutions my ass” and stormed off.

Paul Krugman takes up the challenge and criticizes ‘fringe economics’ or, as he calls it, ‘heterodox economics’. But the whole point is of course that outside of the realm of neoclassical economics, ‘fringe’ economics are not heterodox at all. Let’s take the ‘heterodox’ idea of endogenous money, which gives a much larger role to households and non-financial companies and banks and a smaller role to the central bank and the government when it comes to creating and defining money, liquidity and money-like means of payment. Spoiler: I do not even mention the trillions of Euro’s which were created to finance ever higher prices of existing houses, with these same ‘thin air’ prices as collateral…

A) The work of economic-historians is totally consistent with ‘endogenous money’, which gives a much larger role to households and non-financial companies when it comes to creating means of payment. To cite a recent article about this:

“Nevertheless, as the eighteenth century progressed the importance of credit in the daily functioning of the economy gradually diminished. More wages were paid in cash, retail purchases became increasingly impersonal and monetary, and the number of households possessing coins upon the time of death grew rapidly. The ascent of what Marx called the ‘cash nexus’ gradually diminished the immediate or obvious embeddedness of economic relations in the social structure of modern society” (W. Ryckbosch and E. Decreane (2014), ‘Household credit, social relations, and devotion in the early modern economy’, Tijdschrift voor sociale geschiedenis 11-1, pp. 1-28).

This idea of course also points to an important reason for the rise of banks (which, at least according to my data, in a province as rich and commercial as Friesland (part of the Netherlands) were next to non-existent as late as 1749, though the Leeuwarden orphanage was allowed to run a pawn shop): households shed their part of their financial and banking function to banks, which in the long run meant that ‘commercial credit’ (payables) provided by households was replaced by banknotes and deposit money. Households nowadays promise the banks instead of other households to pay back their mortgage and this collateral is kind of securitized by issuing deposit money. Important aside: in the olden days, commercial household contracts were always signed by both spouses, to hedge against mortality risk).

The Graeber book tells you more about this. It’s criticized for being less then accurate about Microsoft, but though I would have loved to add additional detail I could not find fault with his description of seventeenth and eighteenth century economies – and the quote above fits 100% into the Graeber thesis.

B) The real world is consistent with the idea of endogenous money. Household credit as a means of payment has become less important. But has far from disappeared. The as always splendid Frances Coppola about this (long quote, but as this is about conceptual issues it’s important to make the idea clear):

I am a bank.

Honest, I really am. This is not a joke.

You see, I lend people money. Or, more accurately, I allow them to run lines of credit, which I create for them out of thin air.

Let me explain. My day job is teaching singing, much of it to teenagers in secondary schools. These teenagers’ lessons are paid for by their parents. I invoice them for 10 lessons at a time and they are supposed to pay for the whole series of lessons before the series starts.

In practice, hardly anyone does. About half will have paid by the 5th lesson and the remainder have to be chased. The vast majority do pay by the end of the series of lessons, but there are a small minority who have to be cajoled, threatened or even sued. Some negotiate with me for payment in instalments and then forget to make those payments.

No doubt because of their own financial difficulties, the proportion of people who pay late is rising, as is the proportion of people who don’t pay at all. In the last year I have sued two people at the County Court for non-payment of fees, one of whom didn’t reply and has had default judgement served against them – but I still haven’t been paid. The other has offered to pay off the fees and associated charges at £20 per month, which is all she reckons she can afford…..but if that is true then she couldn’t afford the lessons in the first place, because the fees for 10 lessons between January and March were £135. In effect she is expecting me to extend her an interest-free loan.

But she is not the only one. In fact every single one of the parents who pays late is effectively expecting me to lend them the money to pay my fees.

Which is why I say I am a bank. But unlike a normal bank, I am expected to lend to them interest-free – parents get very angry if I start imposing interest on late payments, although the law does allow me to do this and even recommends a rate. If I upset parents, they may take their business elsewhere – and student numbers are falling at the moment because poorer parents are finding it difficult to maintain their childrens’ musical activities at the moment. So I could end up even worse off if I insist that parents have to pay up front.

I am by no means alone in this. Most small businesses are forced to extend lines of credit interest-free to customers, particularly large and rich ones who have the leverage to squeeze them out of business if they complain. Most small businesses, therefore, are unofficially acting as banks

Read the whole thing.

C) The idea of endogenous money is consistent with manuals on monetary statistics which, using the ‘quadruple accounting method’ (your debt is my asset)  explain how money is measured. Here, an ECB example. The monthly press release of the ECB is in fact consistent with ‘endogenous money’ idea. ‘Quadruple accounting’ is supposed to be ‘Post Keynesian’. Help. It is just basic, plain accounting, this most basic,  method of keeping track of debts. It’s not the problem of the heterodox that neoclassicals did not master this. The idea that ‘credit’ is in fact a very complicated and tangled net between ‘agents’ which does not only define the relation between these agents but also affects their ‘reputation’ and therewith the agents themselves may be somewhat disturbing to the world of freely floating neoclassical atomicons – but again, that’s not the problem of the so called ‘heterodox’.

D) The idea of endogenous money is consistent with the national accounts. Below, a graph which shows that, in the Netherlands, the ‘stock’ (i.e. the balance sheet value) of commercial credit (post F71 in these accounts) has become less important but still is as large as the total amount of m-2 money… The decline has probably something to do with lower real interest rates. But that’s not the point. Commercial credit is a legal means of payment (when you buy something using credit you can sell it again, well, unless it’s a singing lesson of course but even then you can use the power of the state to enforce contracts). Caveat: the Eurostat data show that there are very large differences between countries, which makes one doubt the data a little.

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E) From the comments: a 2002 quote from a book by Paul Davidson (here hoisted from the comments), which again stresses the creativity and activity of households and companies (as well as the associated risks)

“Recent trends in the growth of mutual funds and other nonbank financial intermediaries have encouraged saver households to reallocate their saving portfolio from holding less (government insured) bank deposits toward holding more liabilities of non- bank financial intermediaries. This has permitted a significant expansion of debt obligations on the part of debtor households and enterprises. This suggests that a sudden switch by many households to a fast exit strategy at a future date could cause a horrific liquidity problem, unless the central bank is alert to the need of pouring as much liquidity into the system as needed, quickly and promptly into the system. The experiences of October 1987 and September2001, suggests that the Federal Reserve bank has, on an unsystematic ad hoc basis responded adequately to individual financial market liquidity crisis. It is not clear that the central banks of other nations or currency unions will respond similarly, or that the Federal Reserve might fail to respond adequately in some future crisis. It does suggest that a more systematic response to such liquidity experiences should be built into the organization of central banks.”

Many years ago, Angus Maddison told us how, when he attended a Karl Popper class in Cambridge, Ludwig Wittgenstein dropped in and the two fellow Austrians started a heated argument about the ‘essence’ of a particular chair. Ifter quite some time, they called the janitor and asked him ‘is this a chair or isn’t it’?! And the Janitor looked at them and answered: “it all depends”.

Exit Popper.

  1. F. Beard
    April 27, 2014 at 9:22 am

    It’s one thing to extend credit with one’s own goods and services; that’s perfectly legitimate. But what isn’t legitimate is, by virtue of enormous government privileges such as the banks enjoy, is extending credit IN OTHER PEOPLES’ GOODS AND SERVICES. That’s theft, especially from the less or non so-called creditworthy and from those who simply refuse to borrow. It’s also unstable since it drives people into unsustainable debt in aggregate.

    Banks should be 100% private with 100% voluntary depositors. That should be obvious on its face. Anything else is violation of Equal Protection Under the Law in favor of the banks and the rich and other so-called creditworthy.

  2. shivz
    April 28, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Note: I am commenting because I assume that the highly esteemed writer of the above post does accept the contention that by extending credit to customers, Coppola is a Bank.

    Thus, the following comments are limited to banks vis-à-vis households.

    1. One is not a Bank just because he lends money or extends credit to his customers. Neither is Coppola’s credit created “out of thin air”, as he thinks, but, in his case, out of his labor.
    By the same token, an employee that does not get his wages on the agreed date, does not become his employer’s banker – practically or conceptually.
    2. Compared to Coppola’s teaching business, the most basic social function of banks is twofold: by (a) lending depositors’ money to other people, whilst allowing the depositors to withdraw their money anytime, the banks (b) optimally keep in circulation monies that otherwise (i.e., by being held by the bank) would have undermined household total purchasing power. [Deposit creation is an issue unrelated to Coppola’s story].

    • merijnknibbe
      April 28, 2014 at 4:55 pm

      Sir,

      I surely do agree with mrs. Coppala.

      The main reason to do so is because I’m an economic historian who, when investigating sixteenth, seventeenth and eighteenth century credit and payment systems, did not really encounter banks (until the eind of the eighteenth century, that is). This however did not mean that no credit was extended in those days. To the contrary. Credit was the life blood of the economy!

      This ‘economy without banks’ surely did use cash. Especially when it came to paying taxes. But ‘normal’ purchases were generally financed by the seller who provided credit to the customer. It sometimes took multiple years (or even till the debtor deceased…) before these debts were paid back and the total amount of consumer credit provided by a company (bakery, blacksmith, cloth seller, whatever) could easily be as large as total yearly turnover. The customers ‘reputation’ was his or her credit card… Sometimes entire businesses, like a new corn mill including the house and some land, were financed by this kind of intra-household credit. Nowadays, somebody would go to a bank to borrow money to finance, for instance, a small company (including a house etc.). But in those bankless days, providing commercial credit was an economic function of households. This function shifted because of a multitude of reasons to the banks. But important traces of it still exist. And when it comes to business to business transactions it still is the main way to buy (as it solves the double coïncidence of wants problem in a much more efficient way than using cash).

      • shivz
        April 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm

        The question is not whether Mrs. Coppola is extending credit to her customers/pupils (which she certainly does!), but whether that makes her a Bank.
        To my mind, as explained in my first Reply, lending money, or extending credit, is not, by- and in-itself, what makes banking a unique phenomenon: whilst Mrs. Coppola, or any person or firm, cannot lend more than they have — be it money, property or labor time — the banks’ macroeconomic, function is to lend other people’s money, as well as money that is created by the very act of lending, as Schumpeter taught us (“means of payment created ad hoc which can be backed neither by money in the strict sense nor by products already in existence”).

      • davetaylor1
        April 29, 2014 at 8:53 pm

        Shiv, two thoughts. (a) Banks used to store other people’s gold (a portable security)and give them receipts for it. [The Bank’s IOU to the depositor]. If now there is no gold and all such institutions physically do is rent out and receive (in exchange or return) receipts for non-portable securities or other people’s receipts, is a bank still a bank? (b) What is “other people’s money” if not a receipt for “other people’s money” which is itself a receipt etc etc. (Paul Grignon’s “twice lent money”).

  3. shivz
    April 30, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Dave,
    (a) In my first Reply I said that unlike Mrs. Coppola, banks are “lending depositors’ money to other people, whilst allowing the depositors to withdraw their money anytime”. However we define ‘money’ (for the purpose of this discussion, I would choose ‘means of payment’), a bank is a “Bank” by doing just that – which no one of us mortals, rich or poor, could do, including Mrs. Coppola.
    (b) I believe that the system, in which banks fulfill a vital function, is based on labor and production, not just passing on, or creating, receipts: the receipt one deposits in his bank account was, indeed, handed to him by someone else (etc. etc., as you say), but unless donated, labor time or goods should have been exchanged for each “etc.”.
    [If the system is based on labor and production, one might wonder how come the banks are creating money out-of-thin-air and ‘get away with it’ – that is, economically. The rationale is there, but beyond our subject matter re Mrs. Coppola being, or not, a Bank.]

  4. davetaylor1
    April 30, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Shivz, thanks for the reply. After I’d sent my questions I saw what you were saying in terms of Mrs Coppola having a value and the Bank acting like a variable; since Mrs Coppola could lend to and receive loans and services herself from many people, the idea that she was in one-to-many relations with them and the Bank many-to-many didn’t really work out. What does work out is that she (or indeed Nature) can receive payment (before or after) in services rendered, whereas the bank merely shuffles receipts (i.e. for what it it owes us). She hasn’t yet received it when she’s paid for her goods in IOUs; only when those IOU’s are in turn accepted trustingly as credit worthy by other suppliers. Incidentally, we haven’t repaid Nature when we’ve chopped down and not replanted so many of her trees she can no longer keep safe the air we breathe.

    I DO believe “banks” fulfill a useful function, and that is keeping tabs on who owes for what, and what they have done to pay for it in terms of helping maintain and renew and make good ourselves, our communities and spaceship earth. We are unlikely to repay what we have forgotten we owe. But that accounting is just a service like any other, and goes to pay off bankers’ debts to society. What has been disservice by the “banks” has been their forcing the needy to take on show-off level debts beyond their creditworthiness. Especially by persuading governments to remove post-war caps set at 2-1/2 times one persons’ earnings, allowing estate agents (real estate vendors) to push up prices and thus their percentage commissions, and “banks” to enrich themselves down the line with on-going percentage commissions rather once-off arrangement commissions. They can only do that by not “banking” but printing IOU’s.

    I’m not of course trying to disagree with you, Shivz, just hoping my conclusions will gain in credibility by being heard.

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