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A quick note: utopian or real?

from Peter Radford

Just a brief follow-on to my recent comments on the role of economics and its relationship with power and/or politics.

I pulled out my old copy of Polanyi’s “The Great Transformation” to refresh my memory of his position on the topic.  Recall that he talked about the way in which economic activity is embedded within the larger social and political fabric.  Mainstream economists must shudder at such a thought.  Isn’t economics superior and more “scientific” than politics?

In any case, in his introduction to the edition I have, Joe Stiglitz made a very useful comment that is worth repeating.  His words are:

“… the very utopianism of market liberalism is a source of its extraordinary intellectual resilience … its theorists can always claim that any failures were not the result of the design but of a lack of political will in its implementation.”

That is clearly true of all utopian or faith based arguments or theories.  The purity necessary for such arguments or theories to represent reality is unattainable.  Reality is riven through with all sorts of contradictions, uncertainties, and other vagaries such that any utopian vision cannot be fully realized.  Thus a utopian theory is rendered immune to contradiction.  How sneaky! The defenders of such theories can hide behind a convenience of their own making.  The radical rationality of market liberalism is such a theory.  Its proponents can point to any number of so-called failures that prevent its pristine wonders from occurring on earth.  Inevitably those failures are described as being a problem of governance or, rather, government interference.

The obvious retort to such talk is simply to ask why it is that the theory describes a utopian world and not the one we all observe.  To that the utopian theorists have no answer.

Why?

Because to provide a theory that accounts for the contradictions, uncertainties, and vagaries contradicts their ideological intent.  They set out to prove the superiority of markets over other forms of resource allocation, and the only way of achieving that goal is to abstract away reality with all its inconvenient facts.  However, markets, as Polanyi pointed out, are tainted by their continual co-existence and co-mingling with other forms of allocation and social activity.  Telling the consequences of one set of causes from another is difficult to say the least.  Economics can describe monopolies or rent seeking, but treats them as anomalies that sully the purity of a market.  In reality they are the norm.  Elites make them that way.

It is trivial to argue that perfect markets deliver perfect results.  It is a great deal more difficult to make a real economy tractable to analysis.  And the argument that we ought compare the pure version with reality to see where we could improve the real world is truly bizarre and pointless.  Unless, of course, your agenda is not study but dictation.

In the context of my recent comments on power, the utopian nature of economics and its need to be other-worldly in order to arrive at its core conclusions, often renders it secondary or worse  as a description of economic reality.  The ebb and flow of inequality throughout history is a good example. Even though things like supply and demand may exist as forces in the allocation of resources and hence the level of inequality, they quite often are overwhelmed by other forces.  Like elitist control of power for instance.  Utopians will, as Stiglitz suggests, cry foul and argue that, “if only” such asymmetries as concentrations of power did not exist, the world would comply with their theory.  But such asymmetries do exist.

They always have.

  1. Patrick Newman
    May 4, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    Corporations aim to eliminate competition. They do not work to the rules the ‘believers’ claim to exist!

  2. Helen Sakho
    May 4, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    And “concentrations of power” are now unprecedented in modern human history, if not before that.

    • lobdillj
      May 6, 2019 at 1:31 pm

      Yes, psychopaths always rise to the top no matter how many have fallen before them.

  3. May 5, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    The development of the social system has not reached its peak and will never be reached. Therefore purely market relations do not exist. But we can consider the ideal economic system and make adjustments for deviations from the ideal. What I mean by the economic system is still only in my head and it is not yet possible to explain this to a person with orthodox economic education. But I can say with confidence that all economic processes occur under strict economic laws. And one of these laws says that in an equal society there is no economy.

    • Rob
      May 25, 2019 at 12:37 pm

      What I mean by the economic system is still only in my head. ~ Solipsist Economics or Economics for Solipsists

  4. Ken Zimmerman
    May 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm

    Peter, in writing about Polanyi and “The Great Transformation,” you write, ”Recall that he talked about the way in which economic activity is embedded within the larger social and political fabric. Mainstream economists must shudder at such a thought. Isn’t economics superior and more ‘scientific’ than politics?” Shudder indeed. But Polanyi’s view of economic action remains linear. Consider this example. People often point out that things are embedded in the ice on a lake — a rock, a tree, a car. But car and ice remain two separate things, with separate existences. This is not case with economic actions and culture (Polanyi’s “larger social and political fabric”). Culture is a way of life for a society. It covers everything. But it does not come pre-divided – economic actions here, family actions there, wars in another place. It’s up to humans to divide it. Those divisions change over time (history) and as actors are replaced. As an example, for persons in a socialist society state-owned and operated enterprises are part of the economy. In many capitalist societies such enterprises, where they exist are government bureaucracies that have little to do with economic actions. In prior times in Europe the actions of the Catholic Church were spiritual, but at the same time also identified as economic, war, and educational. Such actions are forbidden in the USA by the Constitution, but happen, nonetheless. Which makes them prime potential areas of research for social scientists, including economists. It’s all this constructing and re-constructing by people we miss when we assume human and nonhuman actions come pre-packaged as economic, religious, criminal, etc. Plus, it makes our lives seem so flat and boring. Humans have built and divided cultures for at least 30,000 years. So far, we’ve done it “well enough” that we survive as a species. But there are no guarantees about the future.

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